Saturday, July 23, 2005

Is Britain Going Mad?

23/7/05 UPDATE *** Once again, Extreme Unction's common sense analysis proves correct. What was yesterday being hailed as the successful termination of a terrorist is now a grovelling apology, the POLICE having managed to KILL the wrong person, an INNOCENT person (for any Metropolitan Policemen reading, I have linked to the dictionary entry for "innocent").

If the higher-ups are trying to generate maximum fear in the Muslim community, they've made a perfect start. It does not surprise me that this happened, I am used to the utter incompetence of the Metropolitan Police. But it still hurts - SEE STUPID BRITISH PEOPLE COMMENTS AT FOOT OF POST***

After yesterday's joke post, I then find that the POLICE have sent 5 shots, execution style, into the head of someone in a crowded station. (The Guardian)

I cannot buy the "seconds to decide" defence of this. And we shouldn't be learning anything from the Israeli government about how to deal with terrorism. What next, bulldozing Bradford? A security fence around Wembley?

Talk about how to scare everyone with a brown face in Britain - it's madness. Actually, everyone should be scared, we're going down the wrong road with these tactics. There doesn't need to be a "well, Jason how would you deal with it..." because I would be withdrawing troops from Iraq and doing everything I could to reassure Britain's Muslims that their votes and opinions count too when Britain formulates its foreign policy. Instead, Tony Blair lied to everyone and got us into a complete mess.

It also looks obvious the person was unarmed/not covered in sticks of dynamite, or that would've been disclosed (UPDATE - this proved to be the case). What happens when the cold weather comes and some Muslims would like to wear their padded jackets? Are they going to have to walk round the capital shivering in transparent vests?

*** from BBC Have your Say section, here are some of my British fellows demonstrating they can be just as stupid as the best that the US can offer... ***

With innocent lives at risk, the police cannot afford to take chances with suspicious people who run away when challenged. It's easy with hindsight to accuse them of being too hasty, but haste is unavoidable when you might have a suicide bomber among dozens of people on a tube train. There's no time to interview the suspect - there's just action. If people want someone to blame for this, blame the terrorists who have made such actions necessary.
Jennifer Harvey, UK

A situation like this demands firm and decisive action. It sends a message to all who are on the fringe to keep clear and for those real terrorists that there is no mercy. Inevitably, there will be mistakes but in a war this is the result of a fanatic minority trying to impose their will on all others.
Peter Nurse, (English), France

Yes, rationalising away the death of an innocent man. Best get in some practice, there will be a lot more innocent people being killed if this goes on. The first comment, in particular, is so loaded with the government's message, and represents a nonsensical joining up of imaginary dots - it shows the magic that can be worked on small minds in a short space of time!

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Blogger g said...

I check out The Guardian almost every day. With the current goings on everywhere, there is almost certainly something horrific with which one must deal. But this was chilling(begin quote):

The Asian man then bolted down an escalator and tried to get on a train before he was, according to witnesses, shot five times in the head by an officer with an automatic pistol.

Train passenger Mark Whitby said: "As the man got on the train I looked at his face. He looked from left to right, but he basically looked like a cornered rabbit, like a cornered fox. He looked absolutely petrified.

"He sort of tripped but they were hotly pursuing him and couldn't have been more than two or three feet behind him at this time.

"They unloaded five shots into him. I saw it. He's dead, five shots, he's dead."

(end quote)

I was creeped out when I learned about double tapping. Looks like the Metropolitan police have advanced the state-of-the-art with their keep shooting 'til there's no head left to shoot method. I'm sure more than one world view was utterly shattered on that car (coach, carriage?).

1:41 PM  
Blogger g said...

Good grief! You updated as I was commenting. After reading the update, I had to wretch. It's hideous that "collateral damage" now has the face of an innocent man gunned down by Metropolitan police on a London subway.

1:46 PM  
Blogger kingfelix said...


you're right to quote from the Guardian, article, that's what i drew on for my comments yesterday, only i was too tired to link to it.

i, personally, believe that we learn nothing by plunging ourselves into the mindset of an israeli administration in a... (i am not sure whether to say nation or not)... that has been in a state of emergency since its inception.

after 9/11 we were "all americans" supposedly, are we now "all israelis"??? in prosecuting our response. given the fact that the British police are going on fact-finding and trips over there, and the US military has had Israeli help overseeing their smashing up of Iraq, it would seem so.

i am not anti-semitic, my criticisms are of Israel's Policies - but if you frame whole sections of society as terrorists and sympathisers and encourage your citizenry to live in a constant state of siege, then we may as well kiss goodbye to the kind of Britain i grew up in, a Britain that is by no means perfect, but is certainly not apocalpytic.

1:56 PM  

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